The Gabriel Method

Weight Loss: Intuition
Coach Calls with Jon Gabriel

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Listen to Jon Gabriel Chat to psychic Sherry Edwards About:

  • How she can gauge a lot from people’s voices
  • What she can sense from callers by talking to them on the phone
  • How intuition is an effective weight-loss tool

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Jon:  

Sherry, are you there?

Sherry:  

Yes, I’m here.

Jon:  

How are you?

Sherry:  

I am great. Love listening to the show. I called my husband today and I said, "I need you to record Oprah." And I never watch Oprah, and she had something on the show, a project we were working on, so its opened an opportunity for us to be there. And like you were saying, listen to your heart and do it.

Jon:  

Let me ask you a question, Sherry, did you know what the topic was with Oprah when you asked your husband to record it?

Sherry:  

No.

Jon:  

So you had no way of knowing — and you never listen to Oprah, is that right?

Sherry:  

No, because I work.

Jon:  

So all of a sudden out of the blue for no reason, you just decided that you wanted to ask your husband to record Oprah for you, right?

Sherry:  

Yeah, in your head, and when it comes up the third time I do it. You know?

Jon:  

Right. So what did your husband say? Did he say, "No I don’t have time for that; what do you need to see Oprah for?"

Sherry:  

No, he did say, "Why do you need to do that?" I said, "I don’t know. Can you just record it for me."

Kelly:  

Sherry’s highly, highly psychic. Sherry, why don’t you tell us a little bit about growing up in Appalachia, which I think Jon will find fascinating, please.

Sherry:  

Well, just being really poor, poor white trash kind of thing is what we were called. We lived in the hills, actually we lived in a corn crib because everybody was in the big house, like four, five families. And in the corn crib there’s slats so the corn could breathe, so we put cardboard up on that. We had an outside toilet and we used Sears catalogs and corn cobs. No electricity.

Jon:  

And where in the Appalachians did you live?

Sherry:  

Just in Southern Ohio, but I really feel honored to be able to do that because we didn’t have any electricity, so no pollution, no noise. So I started paying attention to the sounds that the vegetables made, and I didn’t know other people weren’t hearing those.

Kelly:  

The sounds the vegetables made.

Jon:  

So what kind of sounds do they make?

Sherry:  

Blue, mostly blue when they’re ready to be picked, like a real melodic.

Jon:  

So you developed a really kind of keen sense of not only hearing but an intuitive type of hearing. Would that be fair to say?

Sherry:  

Well I didn’t know the word intuitive and I didn’t know everybody else wasn’t hearing it. I just thought it wasn’t worth talking about it because we didn’t talk much in the family. You know, you tried to survive. When you were done for the day, since there was no light you just went to bed. So there’s not a lot of conversation.

But I was so lucky that my ears became attuned to this kind of thing, even with people. And you could tell what people were thinking and that they really didn’t have to talk. So from hearing these sounds and knowing when someone was ill or upset and having to keep it to myself, I became kind of a hermit. But then in going to school, I got a job at the local university because I couldn’t afford to go to school so I could go to school, and it took me 12 years to finished my undergraduate degree working in speech and hearing, and I found out that hearing these sounds was a disease. It was a really an illness and I was really sick.

So we went to get my ears tested downstairs in the lab, and they found out that I can hear sounds well beyond what humans, what dogs can hear, and it really is — they vindicated me because they said, "Don’t talk about that, Sherry, we think you’re weird enough," but now I’ve been vindicated with John Hopkins’s University as proven that there’s a sound coming out of the ear and that’s what I’m hearing. And they are using it for diagnosis purposes for predictive issues with the liver, pancreas, and the gull bladder.

Jon:  

Now just explain that to me, Sherry, because I’m really interested in that. How do you use sound to diagnose illnesses and treat illnesses? How does that work?

Sherry:  

Well, it was a certain sounds means a certain stress in the body. Like, if you send a sound signal to a bridge, you can tell if there’s a crack in the metal, that kind of thing. They’re sending a sound into the ear. Now, I don’t use that, I’m trying to do it. I do the same kind of thing from people’s voices.

Jon:  

So you do it just from your ability, your incredibly keen sense of hearing. Is that? You don’t need the instruments to do it.

Sherry:  

Yeah, but if you think, last week when Ramone called, couldn’t you hear that he was depressed and sad?

Jon:  

I don’t know. We have Ramone here right now if you want to talk to him.

Sherry:  

Well what we did with Ramone was, have him call us and we took his vocal print. Now first we did a personality profile on him, so he can talk about that and see if it fits. But I was able to look at his chemistry though his vocal print and we’ve been working together for hours this afternoon. Maybe he could tell you a little bit of what happened.

Jon:  

Let me bring Ramone on and we can talk to him.

Ramone:  

Yeah, hi, Jon.

Jon:  

How are you?

Ramone:  

I’m good. Hi, Kelly.

Jon:  

Tell me a little bit about what happened with Sherry.

Ramone:  

It was very — it was an eye opener for me and it was very interesting how she explained things, especially the information she gave me afterwards. I need a while to understand some of it.

Jon:  

For people that are listening now, let’s just refresh their memory about the conversation we had last week with your specific situation with weight loss and with what you’re going through and why Sherry called in to talk to you. So tell me a little bit about your situation and what you’re trying to achieve as far as weight loss with The Gabriel Method and where you are with it.

Ramone:  

Well, I started The Gabriel Method, but it was inconsistent, but I definitely started between two weeks and month from now.

Jon:  

Okay.

Ramone:  

And my particular problem that I believe that’s bothering me and that Sherry helped reinforce that from her test and you definitely helped in explaining a lot of things, with the medications I was taking, the SSRI, Zoloft -

Jon:  

So you’re taking anti-depressants, and I think I explained to you, sometimes anti-depressants can cause certain brain chemistry that activates the FAT programs. And that makes it very challenging to lose weight when you’re taking those medications. What I typically tell people, is over a six month period from taking omega 3′ss and from reducing stress, you may be able to work with your doctor to wean yourself off of that medication, and then you can turn the FAT programs off much easier. And I think that’s where we left it when Sherry called in. Is that right, Ramone?

Ramone:  

Yeah, it is.

Jon:  

Okay, and so Sherry had some ideas about the stress and the depression that you’re experiencing and what to do about it. Is that right?

Ramone:  

Yes, yes, it is. Yeah, and when I met with her, basically, Sherry, can I tell them the procedure?

Sherry:  

Absolutely.

Ramone:  

Well, when I met with her, she — sorry if I don’t remember everything. First, basically she asked me to talk about my problems for a couple seconds, and I don’t remember exactly.

Sherry:  

And he was watching this on the computer.

Jon:  

He was in your office then?

Sherry:  

No, we were live on each other’s computers.

Jon:  

Oh, I see, I see, okay.

Ramone:  

Yeah, and during that time, basically she was recording me. After that, there was a graph with my voice print basically. And she pointed out the different areas that were out of balance or not normal, and then she interpreted that further to pinpoint where I was lacking, what was out of balance, the nutrients that my body wasn’t using or had too much of or too little of, and with that — and the neurotransmitters, she mentioned that as well. And with that — well, the last report she gave me was a little more — gave a better overview of my current problems.

She mentioned that, again, she said this before on your show, but one thing that was a problem for me was my GABA receptors, which had to do with depression. Sorry, I have all the files up. I’m trying to read them from there, Sherry.

Jon:  

Well maybe I’ll let Sherry talk a little bit about it if you don’t mind, Ramone.

Sherry:  

In talking to him, you could tell that he was doing the right things. He was really trying. You know he lost 60 pounds on The Gabriel Method?

Jon:  

I didn’t know that.

Ramone:  

No, no, that was before. That was before when I was dieting. That was all willpower. I just started The Gabriel Method. I didn’t lose 67 pounds on it. I’m sorry, I should have been more specific about that. That was before.

Sherry:  

But still, that is incredible that you would lose that much weight. He’s a 5/7 now and weighs 190 pounds, which is really good. He’s concerned with stomach fat, which is a lot of times is hereditary from insulin resistance. In his case, he needs — we use an herb for that called fucoxanthine, and it’s just like seaweed stuff. F-U-C-O-X-A-N-T-H-I-N, and you can find it online. But it’s full of the right kinds of salts and iodines so that the belly fat out of the intestines will begin to be pushed out of the body. So that’s one of the things that he needed.

The other thing that was a combination for him, for the depression and the neurotransmitters, is his GABA receptors — I think you have 11 GABA receptors -

Jon:  

Just explain what GABA receptors are please, Sherry.

Sherry:  

Okay. GABA is a neurotransmitter, gamma-aminobutyric acid, and it helps the body calm down. It helps make dopamine, which helps you lose weight and keeps you calm. It helps serotonin and it helps norepinephrine.

There are three major neurotransmitters that deal with weight loss that we look at: The dopamine, the serotonin, and the norepinephrine. Now here’s one of the things we found in his chart. The medication that he’s on is for serotonin. He really is in need of dopamine and GABA. So one, I can’t say they have him on the wrong medication, but it certainly is not compatible with his vocal chart.

So you being to look at these, in the numbers, the graph he was talking about, it says, okay, this is the highest and this is the highest problem. And even though he’s on a diet, he’s working out, he’s doing the right things, he still has these cravings of butter and milk and cereal. Now milk is a biggie for him. According to his print, the inflammation that milk is causing him, he really should not be drinking milk. You talked last week about the calcium being out of balance and causing a cytokine problem. That’s exactly what was going on with him. It’s the only kind of inflammation you mentioned last week, so you were right on with this.

But what is causing to come up is something that’s called a nuclear kappa factor, which really is one of the extreme inflammation points, biochemicals of the body, and it causes you to gain weight quickly. Now I went into his genetics, and I don’t want to get too technical, but it’s a genetic issue with him that’s neuro peptide Y. And that’s why he can’t get his appetite satiated, because it’s coming back with his nuclear factor kappa inflammation that’s keeping his organs, down to the cellular level, inflamed and crazy.

Jon:  

Well what happens with inflammation is, when you get the cytokines, the proinflammatory cytokines, what they do is they cause something called leptin resistance, which is something I may want to talk about at the end of the show or I’ll talk about it next show. And leptin’s really the most important hormone when it comes to weight loss. And when you do have leptin resistance, you’re not able to be satiated. The communication to your stomach to your brain, your brain stops listening when your stomach says, "I’m full." So it causes a kind of insatiable hunger. The real way to lose weight is to get your body to listen to leptin, but if you’re getting inflammation either through the stress in your life or from the foods that you’re eating, that’s going to cause that leptin resistance and that’s going to make your body stay insatiably hungry.

Sherry:  

In his case, it’s coming from a genetic — he has an obesity gene that’s been activated. We need to shut that down.

Jon:  

Well, that’s what I would call a FAT program.

Sherry:  

And then the neuro peptide Y. But everybody has this weight issue from a different perspective. So we need to make him his own tape of relaxation and thoughts about weight, but we need to have the sound on it of this GABA and GABA receptors.

Jon:  

That’s very interesting, okay.

Sherry:  

Also, his dopamine receptors are very unbalanced, and part of that’s tyrosine, it’s the amino acid of his thyroid, so there’s thyroid issues.

Jon:  

So let me ask you a question because this is something that I could apply in a really broad spectrum. If I made, for example, a relaxation tape for him that would lower stress and help him do visualization and all these kind of things, but I included music that specifically there to help enhance his GABA receptors, is that right? Then that would appeal directly to his issue. Is that what you’re saying?

Sherry:  

Yes, and I bet you’re going to find — you take 100 people and 20 of them are going to have leptins 1 and 20 GABA and 20 dopamine and 20. So you could make a whole series of tapes, and based on what we know about them, that’s the one we need.

Jon:  

And how do you make music that specifically appeals with that issue?

Sherry:  

Because we would put it as a background sound with the music. They’ve done that a lot. Two other issues he has that you might want to think about including or break this up is, he’s not digesting carbohydrates very well. His amylase is very low.

Jon:  

Okay.

Sherry:  

So here’s your enzymes for digestion, here’s your neurotransmitters, or if you just want to do one whole tape for everybody but you got a few minutes of leptin and a few minutes of dopamine, I mean, it can be done.

Jon:  

Can you provide the background music for me for each one of those things?

Sherry:  

Absolutely.

Jon:  

Okay, because that could open up a whole new field for what I’m doing because my CD has really been very effective for people for losing weight, but I think if I could target it specifically to what people’s issues are, if they could have like a voice print and we could know exactly what their issues are and then use the background music that’s custom made for them with the exact same tape — and it would be pretty easy to do really, because I’d use the same voice and relaxation suggestions and same visualization suggestions and stress reduction suggestions and just change the background music to customize for peoples’ issues. That could be an incredible thing.

Sherry:  

We can also go the other direction, because one of the things we found is that people who can’t gain weight, we know that they can’t process carnitine, and they need the omega 3′s to do that.

Jon:  

I’ve also had success with people that have been wanting to gain weight, for the same issues really, because your body’s going to adapt to stress one way or the other and some people their bodies adapt to stress by losing weight because they interpret the stress in their life to be like some sort of predator that they’ve got to run away from. And the same stress might make another person gain weight because their body’s reacting as if it’s a type of famine. So dealing with stress and adding omega 3′s is going to help you either lose weight or gain weight, but normalize your weight depending on what your issues are.

Sherry:  

I gave him about a 10 page report, but it had things like where do you get GABA, where do you get fucoxanthine, so I did a little summary for him, about half a page, but the rest of it was just background information so he could understand more. He’s a real curious guy, very intelligent, had a lot to say, really trying hard to do the right stuff, and I just think we’ve helped a lot in just, here’s some genetics you need to think about, too, and go from there.

Jon:  

Well here’s what I’d like to do then, Ramone, if you’re interested, what I’ll do is, as a test case, Sherry, if you want to provide me the background music that’s compatible with his particular issue, and I just have to say, I know a lot of listeners are thinking, "What does music have to do with healing," and I think I need to address that. I’m wondering if you could speak to that issue before we go any further with that.

Sherry:  

I run a research center in Southern Ohio called Sound Health, and it’s the Institute of Bio-Acoustic Biology. We’ve been there doing this for about 25 years, and we started out looking at the frequencies I was hearing, and then we find out we could do the same with the voice. So now we can do it over telephone instead of having me there listening to the person’s hears.

So by trial and error, these are the notes that showed up with the diabetes people. What do they mean? What are their frequencies? And we began to be able to relate it.

Jon:  

Okay, so if you’ve got diabetes, for example, it’s going to show up as a certain frequency in your voice. Is that correct?

Sherry:  

Yes.

Jon:  

Okay, that I can understand. What I’m not sure I understand and I think I’m sure a lot of listeners might have the same question is, how do you then treat the issue with music, with frequencies? What exactly is happening?

Sherry:  

Okay, well we give people choices. They could also use nutrients, but we give the frequencies back. Let’s say somebody doesn’t have the frequency of niacin to make things work. We know what the frequency of niacin is, and we have a way of tricking the brain to sending that signal to the niacin receptors and say -

Jon:  

Okay, so let me ask you this – because that’s really interesting – how do you know what the frequency of niacin is?

Sherry:  

Trial and error. We gave people some niacin until it showed up in their chart and we did it 100 times and then we knew what it was.

Jon:  

I see. And is this research that you did or is this part of the research that John Hopkins did?

Sherry:  

This is research I did, we did at our center. And we’re getting results. You can’t argue with that. We don’t exactly know how, but we do know that frequency and energy are the same thing, and we know that you can look at the math of something. Like the formula for marijuana, you could look at the formula and figure out its frequency. So if somebody’s had marijuana, it’s in their system, we give them the frequency, they get that reaction again. But marijuana and progesterone, a very normal hormone in the body, are exactly the same frequency. So you have to be careful what you’re looking at.

So just by trial and error, we have this very large database. And we ran Ramone through bio diet, through something called which shows all the receptors, I ran him through nutrition and inflammation when I started seeing all the inflammation on his chart. So we can run up to five charts together, people get a score, 10 is about normal and he had a 27 on one. And I just sent him those charts and said, "Here’s your instructions on how to use this and how to look at it. If you have any questions, just call me back and we’ll meet online and we’ll talk about it."

Jon:  

Okay, so let me ask you this. So how do you deal with inflammation? How do you treat inflammation with frequencies?

Sherry:  

We go look and see what’s causing it. Do they not have enough omega 3′s, is there a nuclear factor, stress, what’s happening with their nitric oxide. So all of the pathways in the body that create inflammation we can watch — it’s like math. Your voice is like this great big math matrix. Imagine the body is like a puzzle and your head’s one and your arm’s two and three, and you can kind of put it together with this chart of numbers.

So to take that to everything that happens in your body, that there’s a math associated with it, and if the math is not correct when we look at your voice, if one and one is seven, well we know seven is ammonia, so we can see there’s too much ammonia and your PH is off in your system. So it’s just a big match matrix. There’s a lot of information. We have a journal if people would like to go get some background information, if they like to read, it’s The Journal of Bio-Acoustic Biology, JBAB.org.

Jon:  

Okay, JBAB.org. Is that right?

Sherry:  

Yes. And there’s free videos on another site called NutraSound.com, NutraSound.com, and we also do one vocal print a day free for the audience, so they can let us know that they want to do this and we just put their name on a list and draw it out. And here’s a secret. There’s little bows hidden around in the site, and sometimes you get like a free chart or a free video or a free visit. So just little presents that we want to give the public.

Jon:  

How long have you been doing this now?

Sherry:  

Our first papers were published in 1982.

Jon:  

Oh okay, so you’ve been doing this a long time.

Sherry:  

Yes, but I wouldn’t go forward because I didn’t have all the answers. I still don’t, but people sort of drug us out of the closet to make us share this with people. And obesity is such an incredible problem. I’m walking down the other street the other day and there’s like a little two year old that was as wide as they were tall.

Jon:  

I know.

Sherry:  

But one of the things I saw in Australia when we were there, they’re much more healthy there. They eat better food, they eat more wholesome food.

Jon:  

The food definitely has more vitality here, because when I go to the states and I go to supermarkets and I get fruit, there are these big shiny apples and pears, and you taste them, and they sort of taste like wax. They don’t have that same snap to them.

Sherry:  

Well they’ve taken the amylase out so they won’t rot as quick. They’ve taken the sugars out.

Jon:  

Right.

Sherry:  

Genetic food. We might as well eat paper.

Jon:  

Yeah, well that’s what it sort of tastes like a little bit to me, cardboard. And what’s interesting and what I’m hearing though is, you’re treating — it sounds to me that you’re treating obesity issues in a very similar way that I am and it’s not about counting calories or restriction; it’s about addressing the real issues such as stress and inflammation, lack of omega 3′s, and all of these issues, and dealing with it through dealing with the stresses in your life. So it sounds like we’ve come to a similar place.

Sherry:  

Well several things. And we have a nutrition program. You look at his cravings: Butter, milk, cereal. Cereal contains serine. Serine helps digest fats, probably the commonality between the butter and the milk.

Jon:  

It sounds to me like he’s starving for certain fats and he’s not able to digest and assimilate the fats and that’s what’s keeping him starving for that.

Sherry:  

Yeah, so we tell him what enzymes he needs, the fatty acids, amylase is the enzyme. We could probably make a fortune by individualizing people’s nutrients and we’d all get well at the same time. That’s a dream of mine, to have that happen. And we’ll get there. Right now we’re doing it all by hand. But we’ll get it so we’ll get it up online and somebody can jump in with their microphone and it will just deliver this report that it took me four hours to do for Ramone today.

Jon:  

So is Ramone still there?

Ramone:  

Yeah, I am.

Sherry:  

His was a really hard problem, though. It’s not usual that it takes that long. I really had to dig to get to his root cause.

Jon:  

And so tell us again with Ramone what you feel his root cause is.

Sherry:  

GABA, his body cannot use GABA, and once you fix his GABA, probably everything else will kind of fall into place.

Jon:  

And that’s probably why he’s on antidepressants, because of that.

Sherry:  

Yeah.

Sherry:  

Well several things. And we have a nutrition program. You look at his cravings: Butter, milk, cereal. Cereal contains serine. Serine helps digest fats, probably the commonality between the butter and the milk.

Jon:  

Okay. So how do you want to fix that?

Sherry:  

Well I looked at both of his medications and they’re about serotonin. So I need to go find foods, and I sent him a list of foods with GABA in it and how GABA works in the body, and I’m going to see if I can find a medication or a nutrient. You can buy GABA at the grocery store.

Jon:  

What interests me though, is that you said that there’s a way to get his body to be able to utilize GABA better through sound technology, through frequencies, through background music. Is that correct?

Sherry:  

That’s correct. Have you ever heard a piece of music that you just had to get up and move?

Jon:  

Yeah.

Sherry:  

Well your cells feel that, too, and we can look at the GABA receptors and we can make them more open and receptive. And the ones that are too open, like his leptin receptors are just all over the place. His body does not know what to respond to there. So we can make them dance the dance we want them to hear.

Jon:  

So I’m wondering if you can customize some background — some music for Ramone, and then I can use it with like a visualization CD and see how that works for him.

Sherry:  

We certainly can try it.

Ramone:  

Okay. What do you think about that, Ramone?

Jon:  

Well you are special. Everyone’s special.

Sherry:  

It will probably take you a couple of days to get through all of that, and start eating some of those foods that really have the high GABA content to it. See if some of those cravings go away.

Jon:  

And for me, when I tell people that are on antidepressants, the two most important things to add your diet are just as much live food as possible because it’s going to have the vitality and the nutrients, the minerals that you need, and also omega 3 fatty acids every day in the form of either fish oils or ground flax seeds on your food. That’s something you have to do every day. And over a six month period, it’s going to help make sure that your brain chemistry is as stable as possible.

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RESULTS & HEALTH DISCLAIMER: Please understand that the results of Jon Gabriel and his students are not typical, and your results, if any, will vary and there is always the possibility you will not get the results you are looking for. The Gabriel Method is not intended to treat, cure, or prevent any disease or illness. This information is intended for educational purposes only, not as medical advice. Always check with your doctor before changing your diet, eating, or health program.