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  • Medications to regulate leptin resistance
  • The natural consciousness that our cells hold
  • The effects of artificially affecting your hormone levels

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Jon: 

Lesly, are you there?

Lesly: 

Yes, I am.

Jon: 

Hi Lesly, how are you?

Lesly: 

Good, thank you.

Jon: 

How can I help you?

Lesly: 

My question is, I’m wondering what you think about the use of Symlin or Byetta along with insulin for lepton resistance?

Jon: 

Okay. I’m not familiar with those drugs. Tell me what the strategy is with those.

Lesly: 

Symlin is an injectable. It’s a synthetic form of Amylin, so it’s a co-hormone to insulin, and it prevents your stomach from releasing — it holds food in your stomach longer, it also works on the liver and the release of lepton.

Jon: 

Because I don’t know those specific drugs I can’t comment specifically, but I can comment generally on that strategy. And a couple of shows ago I gave a long talk about the way hormones and cells interact and the fact that cells have a conscious, which modern medicine is not really recognizing at the moment. So what happens is, when you artificially alter the hormone levels in your body — there’s two components to the hormone message, and hormones are chemical messengers that travel through your body.

And what they do is, they enable the different parts of your body to communicate. In other words, how does your liver communicate with your heart, how does your heart communicate with your brain, how does your stomach communicate with your brain, how does your stomach know how fat you are or how much you’ve eaten? That’s all done through hormones which are chemical messengers that travel through your bloodstream communicating with different cells in your body.

Now there’s two components to the communication. One is the level of the hormone, and the other is how closely the actual cell is paying attention to the hormone. And all of the problems that take place that cause obesity, are caused because certain parts of our brain don’t listen, in our bodies, certain parts of our brain don’t listen to certain hormones and those hormones are lepton and insulin. When your body stops listening to lepton, it ignores your stomach when it’s full and it slows down your thyroid and it causes your body to stop listening to insulin which elevates your insulin levels and puts you in fat storage mode. All these things happen not so much because of the level of the hormone, but more importantly because of the way the hormone — the cell listens to the hormone.

And if you were to try to, for example, artificially elevate your insulin levels in the hopes of getting your body to somehow listen to lepton, that’s going to maybe, in short term, make you feel a little less full, but what it’s also going to do is it’s going to make that part of your brain stop listening to lepton even more and that’s a disaster in the long term. It’s a short-term fix, but it’s a disaster in the long term. It always happens when you try to artificially elevate hormone levels.

More importantly, is you have to deal with how sensitive the cells are to those hormones and that’s what my approach is geared towards. It’s geared toward making the cells of your body — certain cells in your brain and your body more sensitive to lepton and more sensitive to insulin. And when that happens, your insulin levels go down, your metabolism speeds up, your brain listens to your stomach when you’re full, so all of these things happen.

So I very much do not recommend artificially altering the levels of your hormones. It’s almost like this — there’s a perfect analogy that I like to use is that if you’re in a concert, your ears start to go deaf when the music’s loud. If the music gets louder, your ears get even more deaf. So if you elevate the level of — if your body doesn’t want to listen to a specific hormone because it has a consciousness and because that consciousness has determined that not listening to that hormone, it is going to help you gain weight because your body thinks that it needs the weight. And then if you elevate the level of that hormone, it’s just going to make the cells listen even less and that becomes a problem.
Lesly: 

So do you think –

Jon: 

I’m sorry.

Lesly: 

Do you think the same thing about like adrenal insufficiency? I have that and I take small doses — I use a naturopathic approach and take small doses of Cortef hydrocortisone. Do you think the same thing?

Jon: 

You do this because you have adrenal fatigue; is that right?

Lesly: 

Adrenal insufficiency, yes.

Jon: 

Okay. But is it adrenal insufficiency due to adrenal fatigue?

Lesly: 

Yes. I’ve had it for years.

Jon: 

Okay. Well, then no. Yeah, I would deal with the stress that’s causing that and that’s done through the visualization like the CD that I talk about and doing visualization in the morning and doing meditation, doing things that cause your body to lower its stress. Leading a life that’s simpler, that’s following your heart, eating foods that are more alive and fresh. All of these things will help replenish your adrenals and they will help your body become more sensitive to the hormones that cause you to lose weight.

So it’s always easy to kind of look at your body like it’s a machine that you have to replace a spark plug or something like that and you’re fixed, but the truth is your body is a living consciousness, it’s not a machine, and you’ve got to address the real issues. What is causing your body to want to hold on to weight, is there something that happened to you in the past that was traumatic where your body just feels safer with the extra weight?

That was my experience that I lived through in my own journey, there was a period of time where having the extra weight made me feel safe. So I lived through that, I understand it, and I find that with a lot of other people. It could be based on the fact that you’re not getting the proper nutrients, so that’s causing your cells to stop listening to certain hormones. Whatever it is, you’ve got to address the real issue and that’s what I talk about in my book is all the different things that it could be from.

Addressing it in calories in, calories out like by force or by diet or by throwing up or any of these things or addressing it as by medication, you’re not looking at the whole picture. It’s like to me hormones are soldiers, but you want to deal with the chief in command and that’s your body’s conscious.

Lesly: 

Can I ask one more question about hormones?

Jon: 

Yeah, sure.

Lesly: 

After I was losing some weight in July, early August, through your method, I all of a sudden, became really, really depressed and felt like I was going to have a period though I haven’t had one in a number of years, and my doctor told me that this was like a phantom period, and then I’ve read some about sort of estrogen flooding as weight loss is occurring and I know a couple other women on the program are experiencing this, too. Could you talk a little about postmenopausal women and weight loss and releasing estrogen into our bodies and what that does to us? Like is it a danger to have that happen?

Jon: 

It’s not a danger. If you’re releasing estrogen it’s because there’s certain estrogen in your fat cells, and when you’re burning fat cells you’re releasing that into your system. But if you’re following an approach where you’re drinking a lot of water and adding a lot of live food and especially fresh squeezed wheatgrass juice, it gets your body, and eating as much organic food as possible, it gets your body to flush out all the byproducts of the fat-burning process such as those hormones.

So that’s not going to be a big problem as long as you’re able to flush those toxins out of your system. So I haven’t had — I’ll tell you from postmenopausal women, I haven’t had many people at all tell me that there’s any kind of issue of the phantom period or any negative side effects in that regard. When you said you were depressed though, I just want to try to understand that. Are you saying you were depressed because when you get a period typically you get depressed or were you depressed —
Lesly: 

I did as a younger woman. I would get really depressed right before a period. Progesterone helps but it causes some other problems with me, and so I tend to avoid using it, and it truly has been so long since I’ve had a period, it never occurred to me when I got that depressed that this was hormonal and that I needed to address it with progesterone. So I just kind of let it go, but it went on for weeks. It was really serious. But I’ve heard that there are a couple of other women that are using your method, on the forum, that have had this happen as well and I’m kind of fascinated by it.

And it’s also sort of derailed me to some degree and so I’m still eating live food and I’m still listening to the CD, but I notice that I’ve added in all kinds of foods that I wasn’t eating before. It’s also getting cold here so that’s part of it and more stress, but I’ve noticed that everything’s really — it’s a lot more of a struggle now than it was and I think there’s some fear here that I have that, okay if I lose weight again I’m going to go back into this spot.
Kelly: 

Jon, did she mention — are you taking bioidentical hormones?

Lesly: 

Well, I take a sublingual progesterone from a naturopath, I believe that it is, but I don’t take it very often. I just used it before periods before.

Jon: 

So are you taking it now?

Lesly: 

No, I’m not taking it now and I’m on insulin and I use hormones to help with adrenal issues.

Jon: 

Okay. Let me stop you. Why are you on insulin?

Lesly: 

Because I have diabetes. I’ve had diabetes most of my life.

Jon: 

What type — Type 1 or Type 2?

Lesly: 

Mostly Type 2. I have some characteristics of Type 1. I’ve been a diabetic since I was young. I’ve been fat all my life.

Jon: 

I would like to get more into your story because we’re staying at the level of hormones, but the fear of losing weight, I think the hormones are masking a deeper fear. That’s what I’m feeling right now and I’m not sure we’re going to have time to do that at this point.

Kelly: 

Jon, how about your forum? The forum that you have, maybe she could find some support there.

Jon: 

Yeah. We have an incredible forum right now which has thousands of posts so that might be a good place to go also.

Kelly: 

How do people find the forum?

Jon: 

If you go to gabrielmethod.com and then just click on the forum. But is it fair to say, Lesly, that it’s possible that there’s a deeper fear that’s been there much longer?

Lesly: 

Oh, definitely, definitely. There’s no doubt about it.

Jon: 

So let me just take a moment then and just ask you. So you say you’ve been heavy all your life; is that right?

Lesly: 

I have been.

Jon: 

So since what age?

Lesly: 

Since I was a toddler. I mean probably like 18 months or so.

Jon: 

How do you know it was 18 months? That’s what they’ve been telling you?

Lesly: 

Yeah. I was told that not a long time ago that that’s about when — well, I know my Godmother went away for a little while and she came back and said oh my goodness what’s happened, but I don’t remember that obviously, but I’ve been really, really fat all my life.

Jon: 

Okay, well let me — I got to stop you. So your Godmother went away when you were 18 months?

Lesly: 

That’s my understanding, yeah.

Jon: 

Okay. So that, believe it or not, that could be a stress that could have started the whole thing, okay, because having your Godmother go away — it sounds like you were possibly very close; do you know if you were very close to your Godmother at that age?

Lesly: 

I don’t know. They were good family friends, but I had a lot of siblings and a mom and dad. I don’t know how — I mean I know I saw her at least once a week but I don’t know more than that.

Jon: 

Okay, all right. That type of issue of having someone go away could be like a type of abandonment issue that could cause your body to want to hold on to weight, but there’s definitely there, Lesly.

Lesly: 

Yeah, and I know I have the genetic obesity you’ve talked about, too, and I’m fascinated with this idea that I could change some of that, but I came from a family — I mean nobody was large like I was large, but everybody was quite large. I have history of sexual abuse. I have a number of things that I’ve worked on through the years so I do know there’s a lot there. I don’t know whether I can address it or not but I certainly have been trying most of my life.

Jon: 

Yeah. The sexual abuse was at what age?

Lesly: 

There was some as a preschooler and then a much more serious event when I was nine.

Jon: 

So my experience is that when you have that type of abuse at that age, that that’s a predominant factor.

Lesly: 

I have gotten a lot of treatment for it. I was fascinated with what you were saying earlier about cellular memory because I’ve talked myself blue in the face for years about it, it doesn’t really –

Jon: 

Exactly. It doesn’t do anything. You’ve got to get it — actually there’s a really good therapist who does something similar to what I’m talking about in Oregon. Her name is Lexie and if you send an email to my office, I’ll try to get her contact details for you, but you’ve got to go in and you’ve got to reprogram the cellular. You’ve got to go back to that age and that’s really tough to do when it’s that age, but she can help you go back to that age and sort of release and reprogram those issues.

But this is a perfect example of how — it’s easy to get caught at focusing on the hormones and the different chemistry when the reality is that you’ve had some incredibly horrific experiences in your life, and even if you took a pill that caused you to lose weight, what’s going to happen is while you lose weight your body is not going to feel safe and that’s going to trigger that and then it’s going to cause a reaction and a rebound, and I think even this example with the estrogen and the period, that causing you fear, I think the real fear it’s masking a much deeper fear. And so if you email my office your contact details, then I’ll get that therapist Allison or Lexie and get her details and maybe you can have a session with her and we can talk from there.
Kelly: 

Jon?

Jon: 

But stay — I was going to say one more thing. Stay focused on the real issues. Even if you’ve worked on them and worked on them, you’ve got to stay focused on the real issues. Don’t let the chemistry and this pill and that pill and that chemistry kind of distract you from the fact that there are very real issues that are causing your body to want to hold on to weight.

Lesly: 

Okay. Thanks for your help.

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RESULTS & HEALTH DISCLAIMER: Please understand that the results of Jon Gabriel and his students are not typical, and your results, if any, will vary and there is always the possibility you will not get the results you are looking for. The Gabriel Method is not intended to treat, cure, or prevent any disease or illness. This information is intended for educational purposes only, not as medical advice. Always check with your doctor before changing your diet, eating, or health program.